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cash and investments stashed all over the place. they can buy walmart with that kind of money. what are they going to do with it? do they get a tax break to bring it back here? who knows. >> that would be something. all right. that does it for us this morning. thanks so much for watching. as always, we thank you for your patience. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. stephanie, what are you looking at? >> thank you so much, joe. i'm saying happy birthday to willie geist. good morning. i'm stephanie ruhle. we have a lot to cover. james comey speaking out. the fbi director testifies before congress in the next hour. this guy is thrust back into the center of last year's election. >> i was on the way to winning until a combination of jim comey's letter on october 28th and russian wikileaks. and the president fires back overnight. while just two votes, that's right, the razor-thin margin for
the health care vote just got even tighter. two more republican defections and this sucker is done again. >> how is health care coming, folks? all right, we're moving along? >> plus the peacemaker, president trump, meeting with the palestinian leader today after saying this about the middle east peace. >> there is no reason there's not peace between israel and the palestinians, none whatsoever. >> we are going to begin this morning with fbi director james comey on the hill in just one hour. you know he is going to get questions about how russia may have meddled in our election but what about his own influence on the outcome? we've got a great team to help me break it down this morning and i want to take you first to nbc's mike vicara like on capitol hill. michael, what are we expecting today? >> reporter: i'm just outside the senate judiciary committee. folks are lining up waiting for
this much-anticipated testimony. fbi director james comey for the first time testifying before he revealed before congress some months ago there was an fbi investigation under way into russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. many people had already suspected much of the word the leaked out. today you are going to hear a lot of close questioning of james comey about that issue and also about the comments made by hillary clinton. of course democrats, those around hillary clinton, have long at least since november 8th have blamed comey for the release of the information or divulging the information that they had revived an investigation into her e-mails. the effect is in dispute, a lot of back and forth on that, but of course president trump, as he does so often now, weighing in on this controversial issue via tweets this very morning. i'm going to read them to you now. fbi director comey was the best thing that ever happened to hillary clinton in that he gave her a free pass for many bad
deeds. the phony trump/russia story was an excuse used by democrats as justification for losing the election. perhaps trump just ran a great campaign? so a lot of questioning from democrats on that score. perhaps some republicans as well. everyone, of course, interested in the status of that investigation into russian meddling. stephanie. >> i've got an all-star panel with me this morning and a big one. matthew miller, former chief spokesman for the justice department and an msnbc analyst. jonathan allen is the head of content for sidewire and also co-authored the book "shattered, inside hillary clinton's doomed campaign" and jason johnson is here, politics editor at theroot.com and elise jordan, msnbc political analyst, former rand paul advisor and contributor to "time" magazine. matthew, i want to start with you. president of the united states taking to twitter to criticize
james comey the night before james comey is testifying. what could the strategy be here? >> i don't think there is a strategy. i think he's just angry and thin-skinned, the same as is true about most of his tweets. but when you look at what he did, it is extremely damaging for the president of the united states to say something like that about the fbi. he's basically questioning what the fbi did last year, saying they acted inappropriately by not indicting hillary clinton when he presumably thinks he should have. and after last year's election cycle where the fbi did do a lot of things that were a big departure from the ways they usually behaved, there were leaks about hillary clinton, there was jim comey's letter and his press conference, it was damaging to the fbi's reputation and really hurts the fbi when americans don't trust that their justice department is fairly investigating and prosecuting cases. and the president is just making that worse with his tweets and probably making it a lot harder for jim comey in his appearance before the committee today. >> elise, did the president go
too far here? on one hand maybe this is a setup on his part. if james comey comes hard after president trump today, trump could say, see, he was out to get me. he was getting back at me. we know president trump likes to play that game. >> i just wonder how much it was about comey even and hillary clinton's comments earlier in the day about how close she was to winning the election. i just think the combination, you know, overflowed onto twitter's favorite medium. one thing that i think most americans can agree upon is that please, president trump, just stop tweeting. people are sick of it. that was something that hillary clinton out of all of her comments, some of which i thought she probably would have been better waiting a little more time, the tweeting that president trump should perhaps not be tweeting on foreign affairs i think is universally felt among all americans. >> i can tell you you want to weigh in. >> his supporters love it. they think that makes him a real guy. >> last week i did a round of focus groups in texas and even his own supporters want him to
stop tweeting. it was amazing. >> if you ask them the question, they'll say maybe it's inappropriate. but if you talk to them in the bars, at the bus station, at mcdonald's, they're going to say did you see what trump said yesterday? those liberals are going nuts. donald trump is doing what he needs to do to get the support from the people that love him. whether it's good for america, whether it's good for foreign policy, obviously not, but it's wonderful for his supporters. they like seeing a guy who says whatever he wants, whether or not it makes sense. >> jonathan, is james comey such a politicized figure whether he wants to be or not he can't remove himself from that? >> i think he is definitely a political football. one other thing that nobody has really brought up here but i think is an important way of looking at donald trump going after jim comey, with hillary clinton going after comey on one side and saying he acted inappropriately, by trump going on the other side and saying it, it may be helpful to comey with the american public because if he's taking criticism from the president of the republican
party and from the losing democratic nominee, they may look at it and say if he's taking criticism from all sides of the political world, perhaps he's doing his job. >> i want to share a bit of what hillary clinton had to say yesterday, specifically about losing the election. take a look. >> i take absolute personal responsibility. i was the candidate. it wasn't a perfect campaign. there is no such thing. but i was on the way to winning until a combination of jim comey's letter on october 28th and russian wikileaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me but got scared off. >> jonathan, i want to go back to you on this because your book has a lot of inside dough taeta her loss. a lot of people who were part of her campaign don't like what you had to say in that book. but here you are, hillary clinton saying i'm taking the blame, but right there did he really? what do you make of that answer?
>> i think what she's saying is part of the reason that she lost. you know, the comey letter was not helpful to her. the russian interference was not helpful to her. but there would not have been a jim comey had she not set up an e-mail server that still has people shaking their heads. she made the case to the american public that russianing we -- russians were tampering during the debates. we heard her call him a russian puppet. 17 u.s. intelligence agencies said the russians were interfering. one of the other things that wasn't brought up here, you had these obamacare premium spikes going out, letters about that going out all over the country. so what she's talking about is certainly part of the story and with such a close election, you could really point your finger at almost anything and say that that's what turned it. but i think what my co-author and i found in reporting this book is that there were bigger flaws, bigger issues within the campaign. that's not our story, that's the
story of the people that worked with her. >> jason, what's your take there? jonathan is clearly referencing that e-mail server, i.e. original sin. >> right. well, my mother always says don't give them the bullets to shoot you with. she gave the press, she gave opposition a lot of bullets to shoot her. to be perfectly honest, i think her excuse or explanation for losing is a lot better than saying mitt romney. he got on the phone with paul ryan and said is it urban voters. no one who loses likes to say it's all me. hillary clinton has a unique argument because she won the popular vote. look, did she screw up and run the best campaign? no. for her to say, no, it was all me and ignore the fact there was a huge october surprise, for her to ignore the fact that she had voter suppression going on, that would be dishonest for her to say as well. i think what she said is fine. she's going to walk off into the sunset and never run for office again. >> the fact that you bring up mitt romney, i have to ask you, elise, do we blame hillary clinton for losing more than we blame mitt romney or john
mccain? do we make it it's her, it's her, it was all about her? >> i think that they were more fundamentally -- she was a more fundamentally flawed candidate than either mitt romney or john mccain when it comes to what republicans as a party wanted at the time. i think that she had so many flaws in the primary process was so rigged on her behalf, it wasn't an open -- if you can say anything, you can say that donald trump, the republican primary wasn't rigged. there were so many republicans who didn't want him to be the nominee. >> okay, jason, we don't have time for you to comment. maybe not rigged, but it was tilted. >> of course. >> there was a thumb on the scale. matthew, i want to talk to you about something before we go. look ahead to next week. we know james comey testifying is important but the real marquee testimony is on monday. sally yates is going to testify. she was the acting attorney general at the beginning of the trump administration. she is the one who specifically warned the white house about michael flynn and now the a.p.
is reporting that she's going -- that in her testimony, i want to make sure i have it right. they say, quote, she expressed alarm to the white house about president donald trump's natural security advisor's contacts with the russian ambassador which could contradict how the administration has characterized her counsel. boom. should we be expecting a bombshell here? >> i think this testimony, if she testifies as the a.p. says, and i expect she will, i think it's going to be extremely damaging to the white house. what it's going to show is that the attorney general of the united states comes to the white house, tells the white house counsel the sitting national security advisor, someone who has access to everything the white house -- everything the united states is doing at the most secret level, is compromised. what he is saying publicly, what you are saying publicly has left him subject to blackmail by the russian government. and the white house did nothing about that for three weeks. and in fact it's not clear they ever would have done anything about it if that story hadn't have leaked. once it did leak, they didn't
tell the truth about it afterwards. they said she just came to give us a head's up, she didn't explain what had happened. i think she's going to contradict all of that and it is going to be extremely, extremely damaging to the white house's credibility and also raise questions about their vetting both for mike flynn and a number of other people who are still there today. >> when and if we hear that testimony and look back on sean spicer a week ago saying obama, he's the one who vetted him, how bad will it look for the white house? >> nothing good is going to continue to come from this mike flynn story. from the beginning he never should have been in the role. he was a flawed candidate for the position. and the -- all of the irregularities that keep coming out about the way he handled himself after his military service and the foreign entities that he lobbied for is going to continue to be damaging to the trump administration. >> two things. number one, the issue is when are we finally going to see a
shoe drop from the standpoint of someone getting arrested or pulled out of this administration beyond flynn. this either makes mike pence look like an idiot or a liar or trump look like an idiot. but sally yates is going to be the hottest ticket in d.c. for years. if she does well in this testimony, she's got a governor's race in georgia, she's got a vice -- there are lots of things that she could do politically to launch her life after this testimony next week. >> i want to know what mike flynn's son is up to these days. he's been an aggressive tweeter, hasn't he? are you watching today? all right. you two stick around. you're not going to go anywhere. matt and jonathan, thank you so much. jonathan, i think you might need to come back the day sally yates testifies. we're going to take a break. we've got a lot more to cover. next, more republicans come out against the health care bill, meaning it will only take two more defections for the bill to fail. but could a new proposed amendment this morning be a possible breakthrough for the deal? before we go, i want you to see this. at yesterday's white house briefing, budget director mick
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i'm stephanie ruhle. this is msnbc and the clock is ticking. president trump is now making a personal pitch to republicans, leaning against that health care bill and trying to help this thing from slipping away. as we speak, 21 members are opposed to the bill. that is more than there were this time yesterday. keep in mind, republicans can only afford to lose 22. any more than that, and the bill gets killed. nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house. kristen, we've got some breaking news here. there may be a new amendment that could be a breakthrough to get this thing done? >> reporter: steph, according to our hill team, representative fred upton of michigan is working on an amendment that would deal with the issue of pre-existing conditions. that's the major sticking point. because there is concern that the bill so far could allow insurance companies to hike up the prices for people living with pre-existing conditions. so under this upton amendment, it would effectively bring $8
billion over the next five years to help people living with pre-existing conditions to pay for their coverage. the reaction, we're still waiting to get that. what we do know is that fred upton and billy long of missouri, who's also currently a no vote, are planning to meet with president trump here at the white house later on this morning to discuss this amendment and this sticking point, this major sticking point. president trump now getting personally engaged in this plan and in this effort to revive the plan to repeal and replace obamacare. i was also told according to one of my sources here at the white house that the president was working the phones overnight, reached out to a number of republicans trying to switch those no votes to yes. as you point out, the margin is very slim. they can't afford to lose any more votes or else this new plan to repeal and replace obamacare will be sunk, steph. >> i want to talk about this amendment. $8 billion that could get these moderates over the hump.
what's it going to do to the freedom caucus? $8 billion is a very big number. fundamentally, if you -- isn't it basically universal health care if you do cover pre-existing conditions? >> i don't think it's basically universal health care by any stretch, but still -- >> it is coverage for all then? >> i agree that the $8 billion, how can that be palatable to these freedom caucus members that are already unhappy about this spending bill. there are so many initiatives floating around right now that the freedom caucus isn't going to stand for it. that's why i wonder if they're going to splinter this already pretty fragile coalition. >> they're not going to do this. i go by the wise words of former speaker john boehner. he's like this is a pipe dream. we tried this for years and years and years. there is no way to dismantle this bill without throwing 20 something million people off of their insurance. you can throw in $8 billion, $23
billion, it doesn't matter. if an insurance company can in some way, shape or form either deny you or charge you more money if you have a pre-existing condition, this bill doesn't work. >> well, if john boehner is saying that while having a cigarette and a scotch, he will not check off the good life list. how big of a deal is it for the president if he brings two possible no votes into the white house today and doesn't flip them? is this not a hero or zero moment for him, master negotiator? >> it's testing the master negotiator narrative. at the end of the day, i wonder, though, if presint trump almost gets a pass on this because congress is so distrusted right now, and congress is held in more contempt than president trump. his supporters, he was elected to take on washington. even though he's falling short, i think that congress ultimately probably is going to absorb the brunt of this failure. >> but really, if you go across the united states, people across the country, all they want is
their health care and they want to be able to afford it. they know who's a republican, they know who's a democrat. do they then go one level deeper, it's not the president, it's these guys? >> no, no, this is the thing. this is the difference between what trump has to worry about. he doesn't have to worry about anything. these members of congress know what the impact of this bill will be on the ground. that's why they won't pass it because they are deeply concerned that no matter what the president says, at the end of the day there's some amendment, some trick, some hidden document that will end up throwing people in their district off their health care. as long as republicans and democrats have that concern, they're not going to pass it. i think this is just posturing right now. i don't think they'll pass it this week just like they couldn't pass it before the 100 days. >> even if you don't like it, if you are republican, the president has backed you into a corner saying very clearly on the record you will be covered, you will be covered as well as you were under obamacare. if you're a freedom caucus member, you don't want to do that. >> right. >> well, president trump doesn't
know what's in the bill an that's been his problem all along because he hasn't been able to negotiate because he doesn't know what he's trying to sell. this was the problem in round one. it's the problem in round two. so until the white house can drive the process and figure out what the president is selling, then he's not going to be able to do this and not going to be able to provide that critical push. but i do think it's been amazing how president trump always manages to skirt the blame. i think it's something we need to be cognizant of. >> i think the president of the united states. >> among his hard core supporters. >> richard nixon maintained his hard core supporters. >> the thing about donald trump is, the people that like him -- he doesn't do his homework so it doesn't end up mattering. what it matters to is the members of congress. that's why they're having difficulty with this. you can't throw all these additional bills in. at the end of the day, everybody
understands am i covered or not covered. are my prices going up, are they going down. the more you're explaining, the more you're losing. if he's got to drag me into his office to explain, he's already lost. >> to jason's point, trump advisers have said over and over, ignore the crazy things he says. wait and look what he does. look what he does. if he doesn't do anything, then we're just left with all that crazy. >> well, we have a lot of executive orders, though. we have a lot of signing ceremonies, a lot of paper pushing from the oval office. exactly, exactly. >> ritchie rich style. >> in eight months, ten months, if nothing is significantly improving, that's the question of what kind of a position does he put the republican party in going into the 2018 midterms. >> trump's staff will have carpal tunnel syndrome writing so many reports which is what you have to do when an executive order is signed. in a few hours president trump will meet with palestinian
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welcome back. i'm stephanie ruhle. it is time for your morning primer, everything you need to know to get your day started. we begin on capitol hill. at the top of the hour, fbi director james comey will testify before the senate judiciary committee where he will be pressed on possible ties between russian officials and trump's presidential campaign. north korea confirmed this morning the detention of an american citizen for, quote, hostile criminal acts. tony kim was detained saturday by a north korean authorities at the capital city airport as he was trying to leave the country.
despite seven years, pay attention to this one, of steady growth, the american auto industry is slowly declining. automakers reported the fourth straight month slump in sales, the longest stretch since 2009. i promise wall street analysts are looking at that. and the department of justice will not charge of two police officers who shot and killed alton sterling in baton rouge last summer. according to two sources familiar with the investigation, the official announcement could come as soon as today. amid an emotional night for isaiah thomas of the boston celtics, scoring 53 points against the washington wizards in a thrilling overtime victory, it was also the same day of his late sister's 23rd birthday. she was tragically killed in a car accident last month. and in another test of his ability to be the deal maker, president trump will host
palestinian leader abbas today at the white house. this meeting comes on the heels of a comment from trump to reuters on thursday. >> i want to see peace with israel and the palestinians. there is no reason there's not peace between israel and the palestinians. none whatsoever. >> actually there are many reasons why there is not peace. we've got nbc's peter alexander out in front of the white house. peter, what's the white house hoping to get out of this meeting? >> reporter: well, this is going to be an important opportunity for president trump to meet with the head of the palestinian authority, mahmoud abbas today. they will sit down for lunch, make a statement, meet privately in the oval office as well today. we've heard from president trump and again from vice president mike pence basically saying that the u.s. will never compromise the safety an security of the jewish state. mahmoud abbas wants to make it clear to the president that there are two sides to the potential for a deal in that region and really make sure that the u.s. doesn't have any big plans in terms of shift of
policy, specifically on two topics. one is jerusalem. just yesterday vice president pence saying something that president trump had said over the course of the campaign. during the campaign the president said he would move the u.s. embassy in israel to jerusalem. we heard yesterday from vice president pence that they are giving serious consideration to that. that is a real concern for the palestinians. separately on the issue of settlements, they want to try to end the construction of jewish settlements in the west bank, an area they believe should be home to a palestinian state. mahmoud abbas certain to talk about that as well. beyond that as you will remember, we heard from president trump not too long ago basically saying that he was looking at a one state, two state solution, he didn't care as long as it satisfied the parties right there. those are some words that a lot of palestinians have been focused on since and certainly words that mahmoud abbas will bring up with the president today. >> i want to bring in msnbc's ayman mohyeldin. president trump's approach seems to be the one he's had over and
over. let me meet with these foreign leaders. i'm an entertainer, i'm a dazzling personality, we can get it all worked out. peter mentioned those comments mike pence made yesterday and i want to share a bit of that. >> the president of the united states as we speak is giving serious consideration to moving the american embassy in tel aviv to jerusalem. >> yesterday being israeli independence day. a statement like that cannot possibly bode well for the palestinian leader. he can't like that. >> it's a statement that has been heard before by palestinian leaders. it's something that american politicians have made repeatedly on the campaign trail. what you're seeing now is after president trump has come into office is going to be the real test, the actions. as we constantly hear, don't measure it by the words, measure it by the actions. a lot of arab leaders will be looking at the actions of president trump very closely to see if that language is actually matched with actions on the ground. the issue of jerusalem is sensitive, not because of where
the u.s. embassy is located but because it would be an acknowledgement, de facto acknowledgement of jerusalem being the capital of israel. so that is the position and the argument the palestinian side is make as to why the u.s. should not move the embassy to jerusalem. it would somehow kind of predetermine the outcome of those negotiations. >> president trump has been saying over time that jared kushner, he will be the one charged with getting peace in the middle east. he's the guy who's going to get it done. we know benjamin netanyahu and jared kushner have known each other many years. they have a personal relationship through jared's family. does jared have any ties here? >> we know there hasn't been any significant communication between the white house and palestinian authority leadership on a high level. that's why this meeting is going to be so important. it's going to be a test of personalities, kind of feel each other out. you've heard from president trump and other officials in the white house, the close relationships, how much they look favorably upon other
leaders, like president sisi of egypt. we don't know in terms of how this administration feels about the palestinian authority leadership, so it will be interesting to see what comes out of the white house in terms of support or whether there's criticism or whether there's more pressure to do more. but you're right, the personal relationship that jared kushner has with the israeli leadership and the israeli government generally is going to be very different than the relationship he has with the palestinian authority. as one palestinian official says, there has to be a catch-up. they have to play a lot of catch-up to foster any trust for a potential deal. >> all eyes on the white house. ayman, thank you so much. next, we played that emotional plea from jimmy kimmel yesterday. his newborn son, billy, had emergency heart surgery just days after he was born. but not everyone was touched by that story. now some conservatives, they're actually hitting back at him. the question is why? we're going to dive into that
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kimmel, your sad story doesn't obligate me or anybody else to pay for somebody else's health care. and other headlines from conservative news sources were quick to sharply denounce kimmel's monologue. i want to bring back our panel. elise jordan and jason johnson. i want to start with "the washington times" that said shut up, kimmel, you elitist creep. here's the thing that doesn't make sense to me. the point of what jimmy kimmel said was the opposite of that. he's saying i'm a superstar, i could afford anything. but imagine, imagine if you had a newborn baby and you're fighting with the hospital or insurers to possibly get that baby life-saving treatment. how is that read in any other way? >> i think that this is a really disgusting example of people picking the absolute wrong issue to stake an ideological claim. someone's baby nearly died. let them have their platform. let them talk about it in any
terms they want to talk about it as they grapple with their tragedy. this should not be political. and yes, jimmy kimmel, did make it political but it's his story and he can tell it any way he wants to. >> there are so many different examples, arguments that one could use why you don't want to provide health care for everyone. what does this say? what does this do for those conservatives who are beating -- i mean this isn't about jimmy -- i get it. we don't like you movie stars. we don't like you famous people. >> the other thing is it's tacky, it's grotesque and this is not the hill that you want to die on. honestly if he told that story about cancer, would they have attacked him about cancer? if he talked about losing a parent. at the end of the day, this is basic and simple. you have a lot of people in america who suffer. the idea of having to make a decision between eating, rent and surviving is something way too many people have to experience. republicans who attack him who don't like him or don't like the affordable care act or don't
like dying babies. but you don't want to attack the guy. in a week where you've got republicans trying to figure out how to vote on a health care bill, all is does is focus on the very issues they're trying to strip away. >> and this is just basic messaging. i think the gop could learn a lot from. let's not talk about dying babies and say we're okay with dead babies as a reason to justify our health care plan. not good messaging, just like saying some of the talk on rape and women that has come from the gop in recent years, just not helpful for you to try to push your agenda by saying like spousal rape is okay. >> then do you think jimmy kimmel on some level may have helped the case? so we've seen throughout the campaign hillary clinton's celebrity contingent hurt her. jimmy kimmel is saying this isn't partisan, this is about humanity. could this push more gop members on the fence to say, hold on a second, we've got to cover
things like this. >> no. i think at the end of the day it's one sad, horrible story but i don't think it's going to move -- one emotional response isn't going to move the entire bill. and that's what -- that is what at the end of the day the gop, when they're trying to push their health care and they're trying to push a fiscally conservative alternative to obamacare, they're trying not to be emotive, but something like this does make it harder. >> you've got 14 million people who have seen this video. he's got regular people who watch him. any time you remind people of how dangerous and precarious our health care system is, it makes them want to stay protected. if the republicans, who have not been able to figure out how to explain how their new bill makes you more safe, this is something that helps democrats. this is something that makes it harder for republicans to push through what they want to push through right now. and god bless jimmy kimmel, i'm happy for him, i'm happy for his family. but i think if actually more celebrities went and talked about these kinds of issues in these ways, we wouldn't have
these negative attitudes towards hollywood people because that's a universal issue. what he's going through, there are people in his audience right now who are kulcuddling a baby right now making that decision. i'm glad that he gave them a voice on his show. >> i just think it's amazing people spoke out against it. i understand if you have a different political view without a doubt. this is a bad one to raise your hand and say shut up. >> right. >> i don't get that one, serious seriously. any minute now james comey will be appearing -- speaking of no win -- before the senate judiciary committee. we'll bring that to you live as soon as it begins. next, president trump calling for, quote, a good shutdown in september. his team doubling down on it. what exactly is a good shutdown? the effect can be devastating. but first, monday night baltimore orioles center fielder adam jones revealed he was the subject of racial taunts and slurs at fenway park in boston, including having a bag of peanuts hurled at him. last night the red sox crowd gave him the ovation he
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welcome back. i'm stephanie ruhle. time for money, power, politics. after a fierce partisan battle, lawmakers are set to pass a spending bill today the government funded through september. president trump calling it a clear win for the american people in the rose garden yesterday. but just hours earlier he tweeted the country needs, a quote, good shutdown in september to fix this mess. once more, white house budget director is doubling down on those comments. listen. >> i don't anticipate a shutdown in september but if negotiations -- if the democrats aren't going to behave any better than they have in the last couple of days, it might be inevitable. >> the last shutdown in 2013 had a major economic repercussion across the country. this is from an nbc report back then. >> shutdown went into effect midnight on october 1st. 16 days later, stand car and
poor roughly estimates the price tag at $24 billion, including $3.1 billion last in government services. more than $2 billion lost in travel spending and more than a billion at national parks alone. >> a good shutdown. back with me, jason johnston and elise jordan. let's talk about that. if we get a shutdown, things like federal courts shut down, the irs closes. people with government jobs outside the defense department that aren't critical, they're not getting paid. and if you think about how critical our defense department is right now. how about all of those positions. to say we need a good shutdown -- i'm not going to ask the question does the president understand what that means. i'm not asking that. but there's no such thing. >> there is such thing as a good shutdown. it doesn't help the economy, doesn't stimulate growth. it's another casual threat. and i go back to it comes from twitter.
he just needs to control himself and stay off of twitter. there was no point in issuing that statement here idea and also i think he undercut his own argument about being a master negotiator but she specifically wrote negotiated by republicans and demeanoocrats. there was no donald trump in that negotiation. >> this is good for the american people. but president trump is responding to the rush limbaughs out there who are going i didn't see the wall, i see you giving money to obamacare and he cannot resist. if he negotiates, which is what we need. >> right. >> pragmatism, bipartisan, are his hard core supporters going to like it? >> they'll like him anyway. but here's the thing. this is the thing about a government shutdown. i know people who work for the government. a lot of those people are proud people, they love their work but they don't want to work for free. like no one wants to work for free. >> no one does. >> but i can talk about the nasa office outside of cleveland where all of the local businesses get affected.
the people who sell food, the mcdonald's, the grocery stores. we're talking about people who can't put their kids into day care if they're the primary caregiver. people who can't help their parents. when you shut down the government, you're affecting the entire economy of local areas and i don't understand how any president who's about jobs jobs jobs can say it's okay to snatch jobs and money out of people's pocket. >> given all of the control that the republicans have, how can he say well a shutdown may be inevitable? >> i think he was trying to keep his language pretty muted, mulvaney in his press conference, not necessarily discount what the president is saying but not encourage. it's the fine line that the trump officials who know the policy have to curtail with because they're dealing with a principal who has no curiosity
in expanding. >> you're an elite if you don't have to depend on the government at some point in your life. there are seniors who need federally funded cars to take them two to and from places, kids who need help with student loans. if you can say i don't care about the government, that might be great and fine for you. but regular people, republicans and democrats realize how stupid this is. i can't wait for them to make this mistake so they get wiped out in 2018 and we have competent republicans and democrats running the country. >> not an extension for two weekings but five months as a bipartisan win coming off years of gridlock. is the president getting bated by conservatives like rush limbaugh. listen, president trump knows how successful it is to goad someone on talk radio, on social media. it costs you nothing. but guess what rush limbaugh has done, put himself front and center with everybody talking
about him for days. does the president now see he could be getting played? >> how badly does he want the wall. that's the question. it comes down to the wall. that is the someone issue within the spending bill that got no love and he wants it. >> does he want it? >> has it been a cheep rhetorical trick these sbrienti two years. >> in president said two days ago i stand for nothing. he stands for winning and wants to be love. he doesn't care what it is, he wants to be popular. >> i want some fixed pipes in flint. when the president actually does what he says he can do, he can get a silly wall and work on the projects that we wants to get into. but this is something much more basic than that. this is about being a responsible president. >> i'm going the remind you after the pipes get fixed in flint, you're not going to be okay with the president doing any sort of nonhumanitarian racist wall building.
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with russia, the u.s. election and connections between the two. his bureau's ongoing investigation back under the microscope this morning. hillary clinton and president trump both with fresh comments on the issue. also on the hill, lawmakers wrapping up key items before a two-week break pap vote expected on the bipartisan budget deal but a vote still up in the air, health care. republicans continuing to jump ship because of the fierce emotional reaction to the bill's impact on protections for preexisting conditions. but president trump is still pushing for action. summoning skeptical republicans to the white house. we're going that talk about all of this. malcolm nance is was and on the set with me today, a power powerful, a former fbi assistant director, reporteder for the guardian and national political correspondent for the washington